where am i going wrong?

[Silverpalm]

after the last few raids i see my healing is so low down on the charts, its begins to piss me off, i cant see where i am going wrong.
i feel asthought i am constantley spamming heals but am not getting anywhere with it, i am spamming FOL for 10 secs then a HL most of the time on trash pulls.
If im on tank duty then im just watching there health and deciding when casting whats best for them as most dont seem to need more than a FOL as this hits them for between 1800 - 3K
My MP5 is just under 200 whilst casting so it feels as tho i am not using any mana as the FOL is 180ish mana.
Im wondering if it has anything to do with my FPS as in a encounter this drops in raid to between 9 - 12 FPS.
I have macros set up so i am constantly using Trinkets when off CD.
Any advice would be useful as if i carry on this way i think i should step down from raiding to allow someone more useful to get a spot.
Thanks alll
An unhappy Pallla :(

[Bokeh]

Only thing i can say is: don't compare your healing with shamans/priests because obviously they do such insane raid healing that it's not even fair

[sacha]

and don't compare yourself to druids because their HoT's mean they beat you...

TBH I had a similar experience before my role was switched, but I tried to keep an open mind and to improve my performance, the thing is most of the time you will be low overall, but please look at your performance on individual bosses. you just might find you're more to the middle then.

One thing i have noticed is that it is very dependant on which healers are present where most pallies end up...

[Silverpalm]

so in which case why are palla healers there? just for there buff and aura, if it was healing alone then 1 priest could cover 2 pally's and then you get one extra dps in?
Still looking on boss fights and im still low there, and Over healing seems stupidly high there also

[Bokeh]

so in which case why are palla healers there? just for there buff and aura, if it was healing alone then 1 priest could cover 2 pally's and then you get one extra dps in?
Still looking on boss fights and im still low there, and Over healing seems stupidly high there also

Priests don't cover the sustained fast healing a paladin outputs on a single target. If priests were to constantly flashheal a tank they'd go oom long before the paladin's mana bar even has a dent in it.

Also, yes, blessings.

[sacha]

to be fair you have a point, a sad fact of a holy pallies life is taht he does not have HoT's...the main reason you overheal like an idiot, try finding a moment you need to give a heal when there's 3 renew's, and several Druid HoT's ticking.

[Argayle]

Watch out when compairing healing meters, has bok said you has a pally will have no chance of reaching the raw healing a shaman or a COH priest does on raid with lots of aoe damage.

Having said that, theres always things you can do, after you know a bit of the boss or thrash fight you can begin to do a few more healing cause you should know when and who will be taking damage.

Like for example you has a paly are usually assigned to tank healing like yesterday on MH but when you know your tank is topped and wont be taking big damage you can throw a FOL on another tank like the paly tank or a SP wich will be doing his rotation with Shadow Word Death or a life tapping lock. That will up your healing.

Has a class leader for the healers my view is simple when i check the stats of a run i dont look at raw healing, i look at healing in perspective. What was your job, what hapened during the fight. Did the tank that healer was assigned to heal died? why did it happen, etc. Were you on cleansing duty? This are all things that matter for all the healers.

The healing done will always depend on the fight and your assigned role. Like if you check the stats on Kael you will see Mfive doing some nasty healing numbers there. And theres a few reasons for it: First he is a good healer and knows is stuff, etc but also he is usually assigned to the locks in P1 and P3 wich take massive damage so almost all his heals will not be overhealing.

With this i'm not saying you should not try to seek council and advise of course. On fights where you think you should be more or less equal on healing done with someone from the same class, just ask after the raid how they do it what rotation or spell they use, etc. Better yeat ask on the healer channel so we all can share diferent healers point of views.
Wich i suppose you are doing here hehe, but i also think you were not seeing the all picture.

[Girlmagic]

As a holy priest I would like to point out that a holy palla with plate healing gear can sustain more damage than a priest.

Healing meters in my opinion are not the be all and end all of healing. If you heal well the group/raid lives. They can be used if you are very low on the meters to better your game but then you might be more tactical on the healing front and targetting select people. For example as a raid healer I tend to "spread the luvving" around the whole raid so I would probably get more healing done than a tank healer as I'm topping everyone off with renews or PoM.

As Argayle says, ask in the bshealer channel, discuss what tactics you will use. Nothing worse than trying to be tactical and then finding out that someone else was tank healer ;)

Also what addons are you using? Might be time to change them if they are causing too much stress on your machine. Try on an easy fight doing it with no addons and see if you FPS is higher. If it is then you might be falling prey to the CPU-hog monster that is dodgy addons or addons designed for 5 man fights - remember - anything that monitors buffs, health or anything else for the raid will cause issues in a 40 man instance.

Either that or stop using mmoglider.exe ;-)

[MFive]

I think you are way to harsh on yourself. I am at work so can't look into the stats, but as far as I remember you were not low at all. 9-12 FPS is very low, maybe lowering graphic detail helps but it still must be high enough to see the AoE.
The main task of a healer is to keep his targets alive, he should also help enough with healing so the other healers dont get to much to do and go OOM. If you do this while avoiding the AoE and do all the other things bossfights require, you do a good job. It's more impartant to cast the heal that saves the tank than topping the meters. Being high in the meters is nice but does not mean a lot, being often low might mean you have to step up the effort.
As for healing itself FOL when it does enough healing and go for HL when needed, but HL will drain you fast. Here is a list with some pointers you probably do already:

- when needed drink mana pots early. When the boss is only 10% down and I lost 4k mana than I will drink a mana pot. Double check your mana pool when you have to cast HL, 10 casts without crit and you will be running on fumes.
- Use divine Ilumination early, its just a mana saver and maybe you can use it twice. On some fights you know when there will be a lot of damage, use it than (breaking do Naj'entus shield)
- It's better to heal early with a FOL than late with a HL, less chance of peopel dying an better mana efficiency (even if you overheal more because of it).

- If you are on tank healing they are your main responsibility, but that does not mean you can not heal other targets. In some thingts its trikcy on other fights like Kaels weapon face its a must.
- Keep yourself alive, should be first on the list :)
- Keep lights grace up, have a lower rank HL on your task bar so you dont waste to much mana for this.
- If the boss hits hard its often good to cast a HL and break it of at last moment when the healing is not needed.
- On some trash pulls in MH you will have to do a some masive HL spams on the tank to keep him up at the start of the pull, make sure you have your buble available for this.
- Make sure you are in range of the players you have to heal, there are addons that help you with this. An interface that shows you who has agro is also helpfull.
- Not a healing tip but one that is important, watch people there bufs. When someone is ressed they mis your buf, many players will die fast again after thet are ressed because they miss BoK, Stamina and HotW and are healed up fast.
- Adjust your gear for the fight, a bit more stam is sometimes better than a bit extra healing. Having a speed enchant on your boots with supremus also does help you.

I could go on for a bit it's time to go home now :cool:

[Silverpalm]

thanks for all your great advice as you know i will use it wisely a few of them i am already using but other thing i will take into consideration. i dont use any healing addons as it is, and use xperl frame in raids.
I know i should'nt be top of the charts and don't try to be but being so far behind others of my class i see as a problem.
I haven't tried with a lower rank HL on my bar, which rank do you use M?
I do try to spread the heals around at the moment, and top up ppl when needed.
I think i will try that speed enchant on boots as i see most of you have it:)
and yeah i do jump/move quite often when i see a heal land before mine:)

[MFive]

I have a rank 9 HL and a rank 1 HL on my bars. The rank 1 is when mana is realy bad and can be a little trick in combination with libram of mending.
X-Perl is also my main addon for healing. It can show who has agro, who is in range and have a seperate focus target. It even can have a seperate group for pets.

[Henke]

From a peronsal point of view I think the healing in this guild is really exceptional, as a Lock I have to life tap and have seen me get hit with 3 or 4 +3k heals within a second or 2. Wish I had reactions like that.

Also in MH I Life Tap at end of each wave so 1 food/drink returns me to full HP and mana. I am always getting HoTs at this point and I really appreciate it.

/salute healers

[Dirkdiggler]

SP, I echo what Argyle states...

Healing meters suck as a way, other than a rough reference guide.

We are getting to teh fights now that personal skill > all.

As long as the people you are assigned to stay alive, then essentially you have done your job..end of..

For fights like Archimonde / Gore / RoS etc... We will be looking to healers who can react to teh fight, play well, AND heal... not meter toppers...

as long as you and your target(s) are still aliove, and that you did not wipe the raid then you did well, even if that means you only had to cast 1 FoL.

DD

[Wharf]

I have a rank 9 HL and a rank 1 HL on my bars. The rank 1 is when mana is realy bad and can be a little trick in combination with libram of mending.
X-Perl is also my main addon for healing. It can show who has agro, who is in range and have a seperate focus target. It even can have a seperate group for pets.

If u spam HL does the Librum buff stack?

[MFive]

The buff does not stack.